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Monday, 6 June 2011

Metroline CELF Center Part 20...New VWs for the Route 105

Last week Saturday we took a trip to Metroline's CELF Center but did not want to upload any shots due to the fact we wanted to keep the MCV B9TL as the main attraction on the Blog.

VW1175 LK11 CXJ and VW1182 LK11 CXS

Last week Saturday we took a trip to Metroline's CELF Center but did not want to upload any shots due to the fact we wanted to keep the MCV B9TL as the main attraction on the Blog. When we arrived we noticed about 8 VWs all of which have been delivered early for the Route 105 which was won of First in April. The Route will operate using some VWs from their Perivale West Garage which is located just around the corner from the center. When the contract for the 105 was announced it was thought that some TEs will be bought for the Route due to the fact that there are already some at West Perivale where it will operate from, but knowing Metroline they had to something out of the ordinary and bring in a third Chassis to Perivale West! However you can't really blame them.the Volvo B9TL chassis is just simply amazing and far superior in quality to its rival the Trident. More of these VWs are expected in September when Metroline take up the Route 79 from First however they will operate alongside the Route 7 from Perivale East Garage. Interestingly these models weight 12,350 KGS!

More Photos Below:

VW1184 LK11 CXU and VW1180 LK11 CXP


Metroline VW1179 LK11 CXD


Metroline SEL804 LK57 KBE


Metroline VW1178 LK11 CXN


Metroline VW1181 LK11 CXR


Metroline DLD130 V130 GBY


Metroline VP528 LK04 CTV


Metroline DLD207 LN51 KXO


46 Comments:

SamRomford
at: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:23:00 pm said...

do these new VW`s have the revised rear with the new bumper like on the Wright Streetlite?

Regards Sam

Jamaal says:
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:07:00 am said...

Nope. Not at all. These VWs have the same rear end as their earlier 59,10 and 60 Reg Sisters.

Regards
Jamaal

Om
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:07:00 pm said...

Nice pics! Hope that London United no longer part of Transdev will order these (VWs) for the 81/120/222 if they are retained instead of the SPs which are uncomfortable and have a rough ride.

Jamaal says:
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:08:00 pm said...

Thanks OM!

I doubt London United will order these are rumor has it they will be sticking to E400s. Also as ADL and Wrights are full up until 2012, they may be forced to order Olympuses or Omnicitys for the 81, 120 and 222 if retained.

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:10:00 pm said...

Will ever order B5LH buses

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:12:00 pm said...

Will Metroline ever order B5LH (I meant)

Jamaal says:
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:46:00 pm said...

I really doubt it to be honest. But rumor has it that their days of ordering Tridents are over.

Hassaan
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:08:00 pm said...

I think there is a chance that one of the routes out of 81, 120 and 222 could use existing 56-reg Omnicitys (which have the N94UD chassis), as not doing so would leave 8 buses spare (although there are 15 of these buses, 4 are at HH for Route 698 and 3 are at V for Route 27).

Also, how realistic do you think the chances are for the 120 to be lost by London United to a different operator (most likely First in this case), as the reliability of the route is not very good these days, and has been like this for a significant part of the current contract (although reliablity must have improved considerably by 2009 for the contract to get extended for 2 years, and this was the case, until 2 months ago).

Jamaal says:
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:39:00 pm said...

I reckon the 120 could even be lost to Abellio from Hayes or even Metroline from AH. There's so many possibilities but I don't see London United retaining it. It's so poorly run!

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:55:00 pm said...

Surely if the price is right they would retain the contract it would also depend on wether the other company's garage's were suitably located TFL are funny like that

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:46:00 pm said...

Apperently OT12 has been seen driving training today on the H37

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:50:00 pm said...

when is 120s Tender due?

Hassaan
at: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:21:00 pm said...

Bids started being submitted last month on 16 May and can be submitted until 27 June. Result will be announced in September, for the new contract to start on 23 June 2012.

Source: TfL website

The current contract started on 25 June 2005. Current PVR is 16, and current timetable started on 5 September 2010.

Source: londonbusroutes.net

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:56:00 pm said...

If First Gain the 120 i hope they will use ADL E400H it could be classified as DNH

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:58:00 pm said...

120 couldnt be lost to Abellio Hayes WS And also 251's using new DE's From Transdev

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:01:00 pm said...

Metroline could also operate the 120 if gained from Perivale West PA

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:03:00 pm said...

today i saw HV 11 operating ON THE 243!!!!!!!!!!!

Jamaal says:
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:00:00 pm said...

Nope Metroline couldn't operate it from Perivale West (PA) as it is too full but Perivale East (PV) is an option.

Thats a first for the HVs straying :)

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:55:00 pm said...

Did you visit the CELF as you said on flickr.

Jamaal says:
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:58:00 pm said...

I didn't get a chance to sorry. Probably have to be Saturday or Sunday now.

Anonymous
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:20:00 pm said...

You said that Metroline are not ordering tridents any more. I thought HT was getting TEs to replaces the old TPs.

Jamaal says:
at: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:09:00 pm said...

That is what I have bee told and now we don't know for certain if HT is getting TEs to replace the old TEs yet. Because the HT contracts are still un-announced but Metroline have a tendency to change their minds and they may just order Tridents.

Fred the Shred
at: Friday, June 10, 2011 5:11:00 pm said...

More VW are gonna come to PA for 297 and TE's are going. That would make it 2 chassis again.
Also are they keeping TALs as i've just seen 128 repainted not sure if it has been refurbed inside.

Hassaan
at: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:36:00 pm said...

To anonymous person who said "DNH class" on the 120, that's what i've also been thinking about. It almost certainly has to be E400s if the route is run from G, as that's what's already there, as it would be unlikely for First to introduce a new chassis to G. This means it could also use DNs, as there are lots of them alerady there, or E400 Hybrids, because they have extremely quick acceleration, so they're good for a route that suffers a lot of traffic. (And it would also be a first for First!)

Are there any specific reasons why 10.8m Enviro 400s are not brought for London (although there is one batch that Stagecoach have)?

Anonymous
at: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:30:00 pm said...

Poorly operated do u remember firsts orpington saga.

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:32:00 pm said...

The reason no 10.8m E400s have been ordered for London bar the 56 reg Stagecoach ones is due to the fact the capacity on an E400 is so good that long wheelbase models are not needed.

Where did you get this information on VWs for the 297 from?

@Fred The Shred could you please email me circleoflondon@live.co.uk

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:36:00 pm said...

TAL128 has not been refurbished on the inside Fred.

Anonymous
at: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:37:00 am said...

If 297 is getting VWs, I take it that the TEs will transfer to W, PB or EW

Anonymous
at: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:21:00 pm said...

Roumors was said that 70 would be using MMs in Oct 2010 is that true?

Jamaal says:
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:07:00 am said...

The TEs of the 297 will more than likely transfer to HT, not W,EW or PB. The 70 does see at least one MM a day as Metroline are testing out the type on the route, in case they do retain that contract.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:00:00 pm said...

oh thanx for the details about the MMs

Anonymous
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:02:00 pm said...

can someone also tell me what are these beeps which sound on the E3 and 94 thanx

Jamaal says:
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 1:18:00 pm said...

That's actually a fault with the E400 its something to do with the electronics of the Bus

Anonymous
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:17:00 pm said...

No like i hear this double alarm sound on all the buses like not just for E3 and 94 else where like Waterloo bridge all the bus route which pass Waterloo bridge have that Alarm sound

Hassaan
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:54:00 pm said...

VW1175 and 1179 have been seen in Southall along the 105 route in the last two days, and both were displaying "Special Service" and Metroline logo blinds.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:37:00 pm said...

I can tell Metroline will order Volvo B9TL olympus for 52 if it is retained.

Anonymous
at: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:16:00 pm said...

The alarm sound referred to above is probably the low bridge warning system. On the 94 and E3 it will sound to warn drivers of the bridge at Turnham Green Station (this is signed at 14'6, so is fine for most double-deckers, but there are a few buses that are 14'8 tall). On Waterloo Bridge it sounds to warn drivers of the height limit in the Strand Underpass.

There are a few oddities with this system, e.g. on Rosebery Avenue the alarm will sound because there is a low bridge under the street (on Warner Street) rather than overhead!

Anonymous
at: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:06:00 pm said...

Hey,
I was wondering how do you gain access into a garage to take photos do you have to ring them up to ask permission or what do you have to do,
if anyone could let me know i'd be really grateful.
Will

Om
at: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:11:00 pm said...

Sometimes on Cromwell Road (just pass the bus station) there's a low bridge nearby and Tridents/OmniCities on the 57/65/71/281 and WVLs on the 85 make the alarm sound too.

In regards to the comment on the 14'6 bridge, AV (Hounslow) has a pair of 08 reg OmniCities which are 14'8 and these are often on the 111 and 120 which pass under the Picadilly line in Hounslow and these underpassings are signposted at 14'6.

Finally (on an unrelated topic) Why does V have about four 56 reg OmniCities?

Anonymous
at: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:24:00 pm said...

Thanx Mr anonymous for giving meh the answer to my question i really appreciate it so thanx again

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:56:00 pm said...

When are 251's DE's Due to Arrive

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:58:00 pm said...

What buses will 234 get now

Jamaal says:
at: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:24:00 am said...

The DEs for the 251 will arrive in August. The 234 is not due to get any Buses till after the Olympics so therefore we do not know what type.

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:53:00 pm said...

When will the VW's for the 79 arrive

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:54:00 pm said...

oh my bad u put it up there my bad

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:56:00 pm said...

When are the Dm's for 299 389 399 and w10 due to arrive thanx

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