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Sunday, 10 July 2011

Metroline CELF Center Part 22...New DEs for the 274

Today I visited CELF Center again for what may be the 30th time although the title may suggest otherwise.The reason for this visit was to view the new Dennis Enviro 200s for the 274, shown below, for the contract that commenced on June 25th 2011.
Metroline DE1154 LK11 CWJ
The new DEs are part of a batch consisting of 19 vehicles, numbered between DE1152 - 1170. The new DEs are an amazing 7,900Kgs which makes them the heaviest E200s in London on the Dennis Dart chassis. They are almost 400Kgs heavier than their 10 Reg sisters numbered DE1115 - 1151 for Routes 143 and C11. These vehicles were built at Plaxton's former Scarborough plant which is known the build heavier vehicles than the rest of the Alexander-Dennis plants. I also visited Perivale West Garage home to the recently won Route 105, it appears the VWs are growing nicely on the drivers and the staff at the Garage are looking forward to taking on a further 12 in January for the 297.

More Photos Below:


Metroline DE1156 LK11 CWM and DE1157 LK11 CWN
Metroline MM787 LK57 EHX
Metroline VPL196 Y146 NLK
Metroline DLD174 Y674 NLK
Metroline TA72 T72 KLD
Metroline DE867 LK08 DXA and DE958 LK58 CTU
Metroline DE959 LK58 CTV
Metroline VW1183 LK11 CXT
Metroline VW1175 LK11 CXJ
Metroline VW1177 LK11 CXM
Metroline TPL296 LR02 BDU
Metroline VP342 LR52 BOF
Metroline DE1152 LK11 CWF (Nearside)
Metroline VPL232 Y232 NLK
Metroline VP342 LR52 BOF
Metroline VW1186 LK11 CXW

67 Comments:

Aaron
at: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:47:00 pm said...

To be honest the New DE's look like they have already been in service.

Jamaal says:
at: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:00:00 pm said...

That is just the weather effects that make them look like that. In the flesh they look very fresh.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:04:00 pm said...

Hi,

At PA, their seems to be a cut in the wall, in the far end of the depot, which can be seen from picture VW1175 LK11 CXJ, what is in that?

Jamaal says:
at: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:11:00 pm said...

That is the opening to the storage facility at the Garage.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:16:00 pm said...

So buses park inside that?

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:24:00 am said...

Yes. The DEs.

peter says:
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 9:04:00 am said...

Hi Jamaal,
Are you going to be covering the closure of Upton Park Garage (my old garage) on 16th Sept '11 ?
link here...
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=upton+park+garage,+e6&hl=en&ll=51.53341,0.039621&spn=0,0.005681&sll=51.533129,0.039686&sspn=0.002276,0.005681&t=h&filter=0&radius=0.15&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.53341,0.039621&panoid=BtWAFDawuR3jg3JtGa1pTw&cbp=12,347.26,,0,1.7


I enjoy your blog immensely, keep up the great work.


Pete (My-Trusty-Instamatic)

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:16:00 pm said...

Hi Peter, I know you from Flickr, I probably will do that later on this month for you, I'll make it a special one too, with loads of photos and memorabilia, if you know anyone with old photos of the garage or if you have old photos of the garage.

Please email me at circleoflondon@live.co.uk

Thank you for the support mate.

Anonymous
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:21:00 pm said...

Hi Jamaal,

I know you said you often take pictures and do not put them up, do you have any pictures of inside that storage facility at PA please? just so i can get an idea of how big it is in their.

Keep up the good work mate.

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:10:00 pm said...

No sorry I don't but I can gain some this week if you really want them. I'll prefer to send them by email rather than post them here.

Anonymous
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:44:00 pm said...

Ok Jamaal, that would be great.

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 6:08:00 pm said...

Please send me your email via circleoflondon@live.co.uk

Anonymous
at: Monday, July 11, 2011 6:17:00 pm said...
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Aaron
at: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:45:00 pm said...

Erm why do they say KX when they are meant to say KC.
KX closed on 10 July 2010

Anonymous
at: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:54:00 pm said...

Is there any update on 82 and 113's tender result.

Jamaal says:
at: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:32:00 pm said...

That is a fault on Alexander-Dennis' part. There is also no news on that tender.

Aaron
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04:00 pm said...

I see the 4 new DE's for the 209 have arrived early and I think I know why the DE's for the 274 were slightly late i think its because ADL is full of orders am i right?

Thank you

Aaron
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:07:00 pm said...

Do you also when these great looking buses are due to enter service thanks.

Aaron
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:10:00 pm said...

I'd like to congratulate Metroline for keeping their old seat colours for a very long time.

Jamaal says:
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:23:00 pm said...

These Buses are actually for the 274 if you read my article and look at the pictures you will realize. They should enter service on the 274 within the next 3 weeks.

Om
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:49:00 pm said...

I think that Metroline should use the 09 ones from the E8 on the 209, and place these on the E8 because they weigh almost 8 tonnes and the weight limit on Hammersmith Bridge is 7.5 tonnes. Out of intrest, do you know the weights of the MCV E200s? (190s buses)

Aaron
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:16:00 pm said...

I swear you said that DE1152-1155 are for 209 and here they are.

Jamaal says:
at: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:22:00 pm said...

Yes I did but if you read one of my previous posts you will see that I also mentioned that the fleets have been changed for both Routes.

Aaron
at: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:54:00 pm said...

Ok sorry do you know if the DM's for 389 399 299 and W10 are arriving because they should be arriving any day now.

Aaron
at: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:57:00 pm said...

Om 209's new allocation will mainly consist of 09/59 reg buses from the lost 251.

Jamaal says:
at: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:16:00 pm said...

No I do not know when the DMs are arriving.

Aaron
at: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:57:00 pm said...

207 will not get B9tl Gemini's instead they will get Scania Omnicities DD in late 2011

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:36:00 pm said...

Yep. That is true. The first few have been built already.

Aaron
at: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:55:00 pm said...

You already know DAMMIT but where are the new Scania Omnicities now this is odd that First London are ordering Scanias i think the reason behind this is because ADL and Wrightbus are full of orders am I right?

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:45:00 pm said...

Very much so, ADL and Wrightbus are at capacity and Scania were the only company who could offer First the Buses on time.

Aaron
at: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:14:00 pm said...

Does anyone know about First London's prototype of the Wright streetlite does anyone know if First London will order them.

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:01:00 pm said...

Are the 05/55/06 TEs Getting refurbished

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:03:00 pm said...

Do you think metroline could gain 153 off Ct plus and operate it from KC.

Aaron
at: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:29:00 pm said...

I doubt it strongly that Metroline could gain the 153 because CT Plus is simply operating it well

Well Done CT Plus

Aaron
at: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:36:00 pm said...

Mr/Ms Anonymous Alexander Dennis introduced E400's in Jan 2006 and Metroline have 55 reg E400's 05 reg E400's never existed

Anonymous
at: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:10:00 pm said...

Does anybody know what happen to the geminis used on 150 when first operated it?

Anonymous
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:29:00 am said...

Could someone explain why Metoline decided to operate the 251 from distant Cricklewood (W) when Edgware would have been operatioanlly more efficient. Interesting to note that with London Soverign winning the route they intend to operate it from none other than Edgware!

Anonymous
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:06:00 pm said...

Metroline don't have enough room in their half of Edgware Garage for the 251, otherwise they most probably would run the route from there. I believe 251 drivers do take their meal breaks in EW though. Looks like Sovereign have more spare space in their half of the garage.

The 251 had to move out (to North Wembley at first) to make way for the 186, which had to move to EW because of space constraints at Harrow Weald.

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36:00 pm said...

Looks to me like it was a strategic plan by Metroline...So they can limit the amount of new Buses required for the Route 209...

Anonymous
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:58:00 pm said...

Jamaal, Looks like current Metroline routes should be next for tender awards. Do you think 1) Metroline could get new buses in time (bearing in mind First had to buy omnicities and Abellio buses for route 3 might be late) and 2) at least some hybrids would be ordered for routes deep in Central London (eg 43, 83, C2 etc) with diesels for rest. Thanks for your thoughts

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:04:00 pm said...

I know the 82 is on the cards to get some B5LH Hybrid Buses... I won't say anymore on that matter

Metroline have ordered 65 B95Ls on an unspecified body for Holloway.

Metroline this year and next year will take on the delivery of many double deck Buses...

Aaron
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:09:00 pm said...

Who here thinks 232 should use Double Decks as it is a busy route.

Hassaan
at: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:22:00 pm said...

If I remember correctly there is a low bridge on North Circular Road, which carries the Piccadilly Line.

Anonymous
at: Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:35:00 am said...

There is no restriction on double-deckers on the 232 - the route used to be fully double-deck, and had scheduled double-deck school journeys over the entire route until 2004.

I agree with Aaron that double-deckers would be good on the route, but more importantly it should be increased to 4bph at least.

Aaron
at: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:22:00 pm said...

No Hassan that bridge carries the East Coast Main line.
And thank you Anonymous

Aaron
at: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:26:00 pm said...

Or if the tender results for 232 are going to be announced soon and if Metroline retain the contract they could possibly order Optare Olympuses with Trident chassis they could be classed as TEL.

Aaron
at: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:27:00 pm said...

And by the way that bridge you were talking about is not that low.

Anonymous
at: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:32:00 pm said...

apparently the 607 express route is going to be operated by metroline when it is put for tender

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:45:00 am said...

607 is going to be operated by metroline????????

Aaron
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:47:00 am said...

How did you know?
And by the way this is great news because I didnt see First Retaining the contract it has old buses and its time they get new buses for 607 great news.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:56:00 am said...

Jamaal - thanks for all the info, any idea when the Metroline B9TL's are due for delivery? Presumably they are to oust TP1-65 - will you be doing a farewell post for them in a similar way to the TA's?

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:13:00 pm said...

Hi, I just saw a VP 330 bus on the H12 with a buses Logo

Jamaal says:
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:57:00 pm said...

Strangely I saw this Bus too in Wembley.

Anonymous
at: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:17:00 pm said...

Jamaal
has Metroline gained 607?

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:36:00 am said...
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Aaron
at: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:02:00 am said...

Today talking about VP 330 I also saw that vehicle on the 140.

Anonymous
at: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:49:00 pm said...

@Aaron I know someone that works with first and apparently they dont want to buy new buses for the 607

Aaron
at: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:30:00 am said...

Yesterday I saw DE1156 on 274 i see these buses are slowly being rolled out in service

Anonymous
at: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:37:00 am said...

Jamaal, all your information is totally wrong, you never seem to get anything right, even though your a member of the bus forum. Ask your self, why would metroline have the 607? one of TFL's policy these days is to limit mileage, and to award routes to a operator with the nearest garage, next your be telling us, first got the 490/120/222/81 or something,

Jamaal says:
at: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04:00 pm said...

Mr anonymous this is how I know your a complete idiot because if you read the posts properly instead of skim reading, you will notice that the post was not reported by me.

One other thing you need to realize if Metroline were to operate the Route it would run from PV which is in the middle of the Route, which is more effective in terms of dead mileage in TFL's eyes. You also need to realize that the 607's dead mileage from White City to Uxbridge is actually the length of the whole route, which costs the company money as well as TFL who pay for the diesel which is the substance used to power the Buses.

Another thing is The 142,258 and 340 all run near Harrow Weald and Edgware Garages yet they are run from Garston which is miles out of London.

I do not have to justify my knowledge because my record will speak for itself.

Maybe you need to look inside yourself and know what you are talking about before you make unsubstantiated comments. The fact that you remain anonymous and slang abuse shows you are a coward.

john says:
at: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:11:00 pm said...

Hi jamaal
i was watch a video on youtube of the VP622
LK04UXE from Londonbuses1 and that VP sounded alot like the VPLs at EW.

Jamaal says:
at: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:01:00 pm said...

That is because they are both on ZF Gearboxes mate. I think the VPLs make more of a whining noise...

Jashen L says:
at: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:41:00 am said...

Why does only one bus in the HD fleet have a buses logo on both sides. This bus is VP 330 which i saw on th 182 today. That vus is the latest to come out of refurbs followed by Vp 488 which i havent seen yet. I think that all new refurbs will have thos. Do u know any information about this Jamaal. Thanks J

Jamaal says:
at: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:46:00 am said...

Yes, All refurbished Buses will be getting the London Buses Roundel.

Anonymous
at: Monday, August 01, 2011 4:33:00 pm said...

Aaron: Like today I saw VP 332 on the 182 with the roundel logo

Aaron
at: Monday, August 01, 2011 4:42:00 pm said...

Hey for some reason the New DM's at Northumberland Park dont have the buses logo.

Jashen L says:
at: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:01:00 pm said...

Hi Jamaal, can you please put on, what metroline are doing next. Many HD buses have been refurbed such as VP610and 332

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