tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post7901122249037911388..comments2024-02-09T18:09:31.625+00:00Comments on The Circle of London : Go Ahead London Silvertown Garage[SI]...MCV B9TLJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-77503852028130642792011-06-19T17:53:02.567+01:002011-06-19T17:53:02.567+01:00They are perhaps talking about the MAN side as it ...They are perhaps talking about the MAN side as it is relativly good chassis, but having worked on the MCV body, its not great, leaks like a sieve and coming back from Egypt, they were wrong a fair few imes looming the vehicles. I would rather have an E200 over an MCV. I don't know how long in Eygpt it takes them, but the standard says it must be fairly quick. All they do in the factory in Sutton is fit the electrical parts (modules etc) and relevent body parts. So timescale are quite hard to judge. I'm not so sure it takes 37 hours as they have to be painted, dry and be prepared. So I think someone might have had their figures mixed up. But I will ask an ADL engineer when I next see one.<br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-91854036150811525862011-06-18T18:35:12.661+01:002011-06-18T18:35:12.661+01:00I'm both. What I was told by the Metroline sta...I'm both. What I was told by the Metroline staff is that MCVs are quality Buses and tend to be more expensive due to the build quality of the Bus. ADLs are awful and can just be delivered quickly that's why companies order them, they are also cheap. <br /><br />Plaxton are simply the best ever coach builders, the President body being one of the best Bus bodies to grace British roads.<br /><br />The thing with E400s is that they are so quickly built, it only takes 37 hours to build one of them, quite poor IMO. <br /><br />Regards<br />JamaalJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-71286435061235565002011-06-18T11:30:23.736+01:002011-06-18T11:30:23.736+01:00MCV are not very good at building buses. I have wo...MCV are not very good at building buses. I have worked at the factory and on the aftersales. The Build quality is poor and design is not as good as you all make out. Jammal, are you an engineer or an enthusiast? I did work at Metroline and they prefer the Dart SLF's. The enviro 200 is that Dart SLF but euro 4 and 5 standard. The chassis is the same. I have to admit working on VDL buses also on a Wrights Pulsar gemini are quite good. Design and engineering. Volvo's are over complicated. Give me a Plaxton vehicle anyday over and Alexander, MCV, East Lancs etc for a body. I am also aware that Alexander and Plaxton are now part of the same group. Single decks an Enviro 200 is easy to work on and understand. They are built at Plaxtons Park, Eastfield. You don't get that many faults with those as you do E400. All in my experience and opinion of course. <br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-53026973438628314272011-06-12T20:12:56.348+01:002011-06-12T20:12:56.348+01:00So how did you find out about all thisSo how did you find out about all thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-36997793726131438012011-06-06T22:50:40.605+01:002011-06-06T22:50:40.605+01:00And GEMINI 2's pretty much everything but RM&#...And GEMINI 2's pretty much everything but RM'S and RT'SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-1793851043675806622011-06-06T22:17:17.483+01:002011-06-06T22:17:17.483+01:00OOP,S almost forgot trident's and mercedes mid...OOP,S almost forgot trident's and mercedes midi buses tooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-25724528527700277642011-06-06T22:12:27.914+01:002011-06-06T22:12:27.914+01:00TITAN'S, VOLVO OLYMPIAN'S, PRESIDENT VOLVO...TITAN'S, VOLVO OLYMPIAN'S, PRESIDENT VOLVO'S,ENVIRO 400'S, METRORIDERS,DART'S HIGH AND LOW FLOOR and different length'sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-57519434514971726952011-06-06T19:47:13.742+01:002011-06-06T19:47:13.742+01:00I'm judging you've driven Buses, if so wha...I'm judging you've driven Buses, if so what types?Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-68446484016163101382011-06-06T18:57:12.988+01:002011-06-06T18:57:12.988+01:00No bus in london is all that to drive no matter wh...No bus in london is all that to drive no matter who builds them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-30888289663523521882011-06-06T00:05:54.076+01:002011-06-06T00:05:54.076+01:00My mate works for Alexander Dennis, he actually de...My mate works for Alexander Dennis, he actually delivers the vehicles across the country and he was telling me all this information. I'm not talking about the Chassis because ADL pre-build them to 10.2m spec so that does not come into the equation.<br /><br />Not all the chassis are actually built are built in Guildford, only some, mostly for the London and South East region. <br /><br />The E400 Body is very modular and is easily molded and fitted so that reduces build time.<br /><br />Constructing the body panels only takes a few hours and painting the Bus only takes a few hours.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-72576991612930762672011-06-05T21:16:30.917+01:002011-06-05T21:16:30.917+01:00I seriosly doubt E400s only take 37 hours to build...I seriosly doubt E400s only take 37 hours to build.<br /><br />First of all, the chassis for them are built in Guildford, the chassis are then loaded on to trucks and driven from Guildford to Falkirk(a good 8-9 hour trip), there then un-loaded from the trucks, sent into the factory, and then the body construction beging.<br /><br />Theres no way that anyone could build the chassis, ship it from one end of the country to the other and then build the body(including all fixtures and fittings)and paint it in only 37 hours.....impossible!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-68756260595790433852011-06-05T16:43:17.922+01:002011-06-05T16:43:17.922+01:00LOL! The take that I got from the engineers at Met...LOL! The take that I got from the engineers at Metroline's CELF Center is that they hate Dennis vehicles.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-38320338011312555042011-06-05T16:34:11.396+01:002011-06-05T16:34:11.396+01:00well at least it will keep the engineers busy!well at least it will keep the engineers busy!Fred the Shrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-85121026948824421222011-06-05T15:49:11.100+01:002011-06-05T15:49:11.100+01:00Then look forward to a bus that takes two days to ...Then look forward to a bus that takes two days to build and regular brake downs.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-5458672818279217912011-06-05T10:57:07.832+01:002011-06-05T10:57:07.832+01:00good old dm's ! i rather jave e200 over a mcv...good old dm's ! i rather jave e200 over a mcv anydayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-3955804443587997792011-06-04T22:28:01.632+01:002011-06-04T22:28:01.632+01:00E400s also only take 37 hours to build....need I s...E400s also only take 37 hours to build....need I say anymore?Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-89644066514808845622011-06-04T19:49:39.271+01:002011-06-04T19:49:39.271+01:00They need to do something with the powered blinds ...They need to do something with the powered blinds on some buses as they tend to go wrong alotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-61733409566612816742011-06-04T18:38:19.929+01:002011-06-04T18:38:19.929+01:00I agree with the E400s not being very good.
Some o...I agree with the E400s not being very good.<br />Some of the seats are not good. The rear seats, seats above the rear axle and above the driver upstairs are extremely uncomfortable. Those seats are always the same, no matter what seats the operator has chosen for the rest of the bus.<br />On the other hand, on Wright Eclipse Geminis, all the seats in the bus are the same.<br /><br />Another thing that isn't good on E400s is that on some older ones, the rear door alarm has problems.<br /><br />Scania OmniCitys are also not very good - lots of creaky panels and some older ones also have the door alarm problem that some E400s have.Hassaannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-63984037165898917872011-06-04T17:40:51.781+01:002011-06-04T17:40:51.781+01:00@ anonymous- I agree with your comment about marsh...@ anonymous- I agree with your comment about marshalls- the capital body was to say the least atrocious! Corrosion, "live" rear ends windscreens coming adrift. Need I go on??Fred the Shrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-57000489423892725412011-06-04T12:02:30.978+01:002011-06-04T12:02:30.978+01:00Marshalls are very strong Buses. Its the E400 and ...Marshalls are very strong Buses. Its the E400 and E200 you need to look out for. They are poorly built and cheap that is why they are Britain's best seller ,not for build quality, just for price and their quick construction time.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-5286762146617708342011-06-04T10:11:36.316+01:002011-06-04T10:11:36.316+01:00i somewhat disagree with that - marshalls cant mak...i somewhat disagree with that - marshalls cant make decent busesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-81200274631253443282011-06-03T01:01:34.510+01:002011-06-03T01:01:34.510+01:00MCVs are the best built buses in this industry, tr...MCVs are the best built buses in this industry, tried and tested. So I doubt they'd fall apart. <br /><br />Second it's Plaxtons<br /><br />Third it's Wrights<br /><br />Fourth it's Optare<br /><br />Fifth it's Scania<br /><br />Sixth it's Alexander DennisJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07010709763661695170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-38649529757488603152011-06-02T19:46:41.627+01:002011-06-02T19:46:41.627+01:00i bet they all fall apart after 3 months ! ( not l...i bet they all fall apart after 3 months ! ( not like the pyramids ! ) they look ok but still nahhhhhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-11170391981580366892011-05-31T22:36:19.074+01:002011-05-31T22:36:19.074+01:00I would be glad if Go-Ahead ordered some but don&#...I would be glad if Go-Ahead ordered some but don't think that would happen somehowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702975208925134726.post-16161411089059957742011-05-31T20:10:14.790+01:002011-05-31T20:10:14.790+01:00The build of the bus is less curvy means it doesnt...The build of the bus is less curvy means it doesnt getaway being below 10.4m in my opinion. More curvier buses such as enviro 400s get away with being 10.1m and below. Otherwise it is amazing. Other points include the capacity if MCV want it to be a hit it should seat 70+. It would be a hit in cities such as Birmingham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com